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Kerosene Road Markers(?)
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Kerosene Road Markers(?) by Tim Porter
Posted: Oct. 30, 1998 @ 14:19.
I hope you can help me with locating information on
oil/kerosene/gasoline (?) lamps used as road markers many years
ago. I know we had them on the farm in the 50's. As I remember
them, they were the size and shape of a bowling ball with a very
large wick sticking out the top. They would be lit & set alongside
the road to mark for hazards. Can you tell me ANYTHING more about
this product? Thanks, Tim Porter tjporter@owc.net
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On Oct. 31, 1998 @ 09:18, Fil Graff, Guild Secretary
wrote:
Tim: I've always called these beasts (calling them
"lamps" is perhaps a bit over-complimentary...but
they aren't quite lanterns either) "smudge pots".
They were used as flares, and sometimes heaters. The concept
survives as the smoke pots orchardists use to help prevent
frost damage. They burned used motor oil or the like...a
heavier and cheaper oil than kerosene. Like the old
"parade lantern" which was likely their direct
progenitor, they burn in high winds, and make almost as much
smoke as light, particularly when the wick is damp. The
battery-powered "flasher" has done them in for road
markers, at least. I don't have much US material on them,
but do have an Australian catalogue from the mid-30's that
shows a somewhat refined version (a big-spouted oil can with a
fat "rope" wick) of the US "bowling ball".
For me, that's a good analogy...I remember as a kid
[completely disregarding safety, good sense or the reason
they'd been placed where they were, or even where
they'd end up still burning!] rolling them down hills when
lit at night, joyfully watching the erratic path and all the
sparks! 1940's version of a light show? I'd guess they
were made by companies like Dietz and Adlake, but the
technology was certainly not rocket science. Perhaps some of
the lantern collectors who may read this will have US catalogue
information? :: Fil ::
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On Nov. 01, 1998 @ 11:24, John Claypole in England
wrote:
I remember those oil pots, I used to watch 'em - they
used old sump oil from both aircraft and road vehicle
engines and were used to clear fog from runways on
airfields in England during the war - to enable both
British and American pilots to land from air-raids after
fog had "socked the airfield in". The black smoke
cleared off the fog, the light provided a marker so that
these guys could land after many hours in the air -
sometimes even with crippled aircraft and injured crews.
They also used swan-neck spout lamps for that purpose. Sump
oil still has its uses today. from:- English
archbishop.
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On Nov. 01, 1998 @ 17:45, stan
wrote:
Tim: Just to add a bit to the info from John & Fil -
there is an example in Anthony Hobson's book
'Lanterns that lit our world' on page 80 of the
paperback version. This example is made by Dietz (marked
Dietz #87) - called a highway marker- 8" in diameter
- holds 3 qts - burns 30 hours - uses a Dietz #87 burner
screw type - burns kerosene - uses 3/4" wick(round)-
finished in blue enamel - has a weighted bottom. I too
remember the fuel as being more like motor oil than kero.
I think Hobson's book is still in print - try a local
antique mall that has a book stall if you would like a
copy. Regards, Stan
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On Nov. 03, 1998 @ 19:51, Charles wrote:
Tim: You have to be describing the old smudge pots. They marked
detours, hazards, and construction on Texas highways for years.
the taxpayers must have been real generous then, because all the
fishing and hunting campsites seemed to have plenty of them
during the mosquito parts of the year.I think I saw a pair of
them in a Mall in Houston converted to wall lamps with punched
tin shades, they were pretty ugly
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On Nov. 09, 1998 @ 21:41, Tim Porter
wrote:
I found one! In an antique mall near Chicago I found a lamp in
very good condition. It was a "Toledo Pressed Steel
Torch". Ouch! They wanted $85.00. Seemed kind of high
but.... Anyway. Thanks to all who responded. Tim